I was thinking... why not just cut holes and insert the scoops into the stock hood? Of course, after measuring and lining it up about 30 times... :giggle: But seriously... are there major hood support rails underneath where the scoops would go?
The reason I ask is the local fox parts/salvage place wants $450 CDN for a used TC hood! :mad: :bs:
You would have to find a way to mount the scoops after you cut, because on the real tc hoods the mounts for the scoops are part of the supports. I think the non tc hoods have a support that runs right through the are where the tc scoops would mount.
But I am not sure.
Mount? Are they flush or are the edges flared a bit? If they are, then any good weatherproof glue/sealant would work.
If they are flush fitting then I'm screwed :)
They fit flush with the hood and then there are four nuts that go through tabs on the back side of the hood that come off the the support.
So basicaly there is a step down in the hood that the scoops sit into.
It would be nearly impossible to do that. As slamedcat stated, the hoods are pressed at the factory for the scoops to sit into.
That's more work than installing an aftermarket sunroof. Same concept. The panel is pressed to have a flush, factory fit.
Why even bother with the scoops (or a TC hood for that matter)? Are you planning on using them to make some sort of ram air, or are you just trying to do it for "the look"? If it's the latter..why bother?
TC hoods on non-TC cars are quite common now, also, so not too many "originality points" will be gained.
And most of the time they're non-functional......just silly if you ask me.
I've been totally against them till the thought of a "ram air" carb setup came to mind. Then there's that water issue, so I just put that idea to bed again. You won't see me applauding any TC hoods, I've seen 'em so often the wow factor has diminished to nothing. Unless of course someone successfully sets it up to pull in air without sucking water too.
I've always wanted to rig up a shaker hood system like the new Mach I has, but that would be rather difficult. Someone with a carb could probably pull it off without much work, however I don't know how the hood height compared to a Mustang system is.
$450??? I just bought a whole 1988 turbo-coupe for $400 with 4 new bf goodrich tires and a fresh e-test.
I picked up my tc hood off of ebay for 30 bucks and was able to pick it up an do a little horse race betting while I was there. Surely if your patient you should be able to find one more reasonably than $450. That's crazy.
Where in Canada are you? I have a Fiberglass Cowl hood you can have for much less than that. :wtf:
Why bother? Why do I care what you think of my car? :dunno: Or should anyone else for that matter? Why should I wax my car? Why should I in better speakers? Why should I put on a supercharger?
I agree with that. My dad says why bother with the car too. Just buy a mustang most would say. You bother because you like to. The scoops look better than the stock hood and is an easy mod if you buy the whole hood. Takes like 1-2 hours. You should bother with anything that you feel makes your car better for you. Jason.
because it looks better..thats why bother....the stock hood looks plain and the turbo coupe hood is a direct bolt on that can be had cheep and improve the look of the car.
Hey SSX...
there is a kit out there that looks like it would work well.
Banshee Shaker Ram Jet Induction system.
Mustangs Unlimited part # BP8693...........589.95
the only thing is that it says you need to use your stock intake. i dont know if that means the upper and lower or just the lower. as far as spacing goes if the tbirds engine sits lower you could use plenum spacers. if its higher than i dont know. you can use a mustang kmember or if you planned to buy a tubular one you can have the engine loweres in the cradle.
Ok crybaby....if you can't even deal with critisism..stay in your room.
For me ..form follows function..not bolting on so the car might "look" cool. I put things on a car to serve a purpose. Also, not doing the same thing as everyone else is much better IMO.
I never said anything about not waxing the car, or doing a supercharger, etc. :shakehead friggen drama queen.
Don't even give me the "why bother" retort you just did...you're preaching to the choir...You're talking to the guy who pulled a 5.0 to drop in a 2.3T, swapped in a turbo motor into a Ranger, is working on getting an SHO motor adapted to a T-5, who owns not one...but
2 Merkurs and may even screw around with twin turbocharging a 2.9 V-6 to drop into my obnoxious and ugly 80 XR-7. So don't give me your lame [mocking voice]
Why should I bother even driving my car then? [/mocking voice] ...I deal with the "why bother" everyday.
My point is that they serve no "real" purpose unless you work them into some sort of cool air induction.
Sorry I didn't :bowdown: and agree with you that they are cool....get used to it..it's life...not everyone will share your opinions on things...
Turbo Coupe hoods on non-turbo cars were way cool...like 5 years ago. They've been overdone lately (no thanks to my site! LOL). There are way more options than that. I've set up a page on the site that should help:
http://www.coolcats.net/stockmod/modified/hoods.html
Personally I'd rather see a strong push toward the bolt-on Mustang scoop than anything...it looks really slick since it pefectly fits between the hood lines. And it's a genuine Ford part to boot. But that's just me.
Gee Chuck, Proud of yourself? Settle down now - they are just scoops. We all have different tastes (your taste in Merkurs is questionable). You don't have to like what methodman likes(or anybody else) and the scoops could actually be considered to be cooling the upper intake therefore giving a denser air charge. Edelbrock produces the Air-Gap intakes for the same reason.
The stock hood is boring and nobody makes a decent looking, good quality cowl induction hood so I'll stick with factory fit/finish. I respect the look of my car too much to "bling it out" but a couple holes in the hood are hardly the end of the world.
Now, go pat yourself on the back for being the god of pointless engine swaps (maybe a briggs&stratton in a Festiva?) and let go of all that "teen rebel angst" :raspberry
shouldn't this be a friendly forum? less criticism,more help/comradrerie.
Well, I never said anyone has to like the same things....as I rarely like what anyone else does anyway. Maybe I shouldn't upset anyone's delicate egos and actually voice my opinion on things when they can't seem to deal with any kind of critsism.
As far as the "teen rebel angst" goes.... I've got a couple years on you..and left all that behind more than 15 years ago.
How's this?
TC hood scoops just for looks? Hrmmmm...... (*if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all*)..well......."No comment"
Thank -you. Advice is nice, criticism is ugly
yes and no... Ignorance and hate are ugly..criticism..not so much. A bit homely perhaps..but not ugly. :giggle:
this comment REALLY bothers me, especially seeing that every engine swap he has done to my knowledge is placing a better engine than what previously came in the car
if i had the knowledge he had, i would be all about putting a 2.3T in anything other than a turbo coupe, id love to drop SHO engines in everything, i even have a facination with the 2.9 long before i heard about him wanting to tinker with the turbo setup on it
i 100% agree with out of the box thinking such as his, and am getting sick of 5.0 swaps, even though im going to be doing one in my 3.8 bird, if i didnt already have the 5.0 and some stuff for it, id consider a 2.3T in the car
i dont think its ugly, i think the way its taken is ugly, ive been critisized, and used it to better myself/my project/my ways, and ive about kicked peoples ass for it, depends on how ya take it
If you wanna talk about pointless, what does a TC hood do on a non-turbo car? There's my point. And no, cooling off the top of the upper intake won't do a thing for the air charge, which already comes in at a "cold air" location, practically under the car.
Like Shawn, I share the feeling of being sick of the same swaps every day, day in and day out. "5.0 H.O. TC rear, TC hood... I like how original my car is, but I think I need something to set it off from all the others. I got it! Cobra R's! There's something no one has!" :rolleyes: And don't even try to call me out for having an all-stock car because I've got new induction and a new rear axle (NOT from a TC) on the way.
it all depends on how you look at it. I put a t/c header panel on my car cuz I liked it better. Put the hood on, cuz it looked too boring with the stock hood imo. Preferred the sport bumper, but it got wrecked in an accident, so I put the t/c one on cuz I had it and it was painted.
Color of my car is Honda Asturias Gray *gasp* why cuz I don't care who made it, I just like it. Plenty of changes to come though.
If people want to do stuff that seems "old" let em, we all have to start somewhere. If you told me 2 years ago that I'd be doing some of the stuff I plan on doing, I'd have called you crazy, but now it doesn't seem so far fetched.
Got a question about those dominator hoods...They fit up on the foxbodys?? And i am sorta with methodman on this one It would be cheaper for me to buy a TC hood for my cougar than that dominator, but i also agree that the TC hoods are too popular among the foxes.
Here in toledo Tc hood from Action Crash Auto parts- 250
That dominator Hood- 600 + shipping and handling
Maybe I should use your disclaimer Crystal.... :hick: :giggle:
On second thought...nah, I don't need no friggen disclaimer...
If you wana be original then be original. If you wana jump on the bandwagon then do that. So what if its been done before there arent too many of these cars around in decent shape and even fewer of them being fixed up. There will always be someone who agrees with you and someone who does not, which is great.
Saying that he shouldnt put a tc hood on his car because its been done before is like saying you shouldnt turn your 32 ford into a hot rod or restore that california special just because its been done before....
When I put the hood scoop on my car I had people telling me not to do it (and they all had great reasons:rolleyes: )but I did it anyway because I wanted to not because everyone else liked it. Isnt that the point, doing what you like instead of trying to please others?
All this over a simple question :shakehead
I have a tc hood on my 3.8 cougar. I know it does nothing but it looks better than the stock hood did, in my opinion. I know probably half the people on this forum have a tc hood on something other than a tc. But where I live I have only seen 3 or 4 fox tbirds and only 2 fox cougars. Most people that have seen my car and are not familiar with fox tbirds and cougars think it is an aftermarket hood. Alot of people don't even know what a tc is. Anyway in my area I have the only cougar with a tc hood. If I wasn't a member of this forum, I would probably never see another cougar or tbird with a tc hood. So in my opinion the tc hood is not overdone because I have never seen another one on the road. Just think to youselfs how often you see another cougar or tbird with a tc hood.(On the road, not the internet) There are some people who like to make their cars look better, and others who think they look good enough from the factory.
Yeah, over the past 3-4 years I've seen...umm. I think 3 with TC hoods...and they were all TC's. Its not common to see them around in the real world. Being in a community such as on this board doesn't count. As far as I know, most things we see being done is online and occasionally by one or two people you MAY know
shiznit as far as i know thats true, infact i in in the full belief that i am the only one left in toledo that has a decent looking 20th.I worked on one TC and it was from michigan and in most py condition.
That's from my many non-car related arguments ;)
With cars, take it or leave it, I like people's opinions, especially when I'm debating something, but I don't cancel mods cuz someone doesn't like them (just wait till spring...)
yeah this is an awful lot over two holes in a $40 hood
Some people got sand in their hoo-hoos.
Somebody wanna lock/delete this? I think the questions have been answered.
(http://www.mustangmods.com/data/377/hasselhoff.jpg)
Yeah, I'm agreeing too...