I've told alot of people about this, and few believe it will work. Just posting these pictures up to show the small differences between a flywheel that actualy belongs in the bellhousing i'm using and the flywheel i'm using instead.
Issue: I have a bellhousing for a sn95 length T5 that uses a 164tooth flywheel instead of the traditional 157tooth.
Solution: 5.0 truckflywheel is correct diameter and thickness and balance for my situation.
Bonus: 11" clutch instead of 10.5"
Con: Have to use 5.0 5 speed truck flywheel, oh well they come in mini starter too.
Don't: Tell me to buy another flywheel, my total investment is 20 bucks. If I knew this wouldn't work I wouldn't have purchased said flywheel.
Here are the two flywheels:
These are both 164 tooth flywheels, the one on the left is a 5.0 truck flywheel and the one on the right is a supercoupe flywheel.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/CougarSE/Flywheel/sidebyside.jpg)
The only difference between the two. Starter rings. Why this is like this I don't know. Truck starter fixes the issue.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/CougarSE/Flywheel/height.jpg)
Here is an 11" disc that fits perfect.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/CougarSE/Flywheel/discon.jpg)
And here we have the pressure plate setting on the disk. This is a supercoupe pressure plate and it fits the truck flywheel perfect.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/CougarSE/Flywheel/pressureplateon.jpg)
Backside to show balance difference.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/CougarSE/Flywheel/backside.jpg)
That's some top notch ingenuity. At least get a new clutch?
Yeah those are just parts I have around.. I will probably mock it up with those parts to see if the engine infact runs right. The clutch is a newer valeo.. its just rusty.
all sounds perfect and believe me,, ill need a final update so i can add it to the diy link,,,,,,,,,but..............
can i make a even more cheap suggestion?
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oh,, nevermind. I see what you mean now. the truck flywheel is sort of a reverse negative of the other one with respect to the ring gear. I was gonna suggest you swap on the ring gear that complements your intended starter but the starter nose will be wayyyyyy toooo short.
gotcha.
so in a nutshell,, this would be a 5.0 10.5 to 11.0 cluch upgrade with boneyard parts and the specific truck starter/flywheel/clutch system. correct?
i think you might be the one i should mention a situation to and get your thoughts or experiences about it if you dont mind.
Vehicle,,, 1990 full size bronco w 351 and E4OD tranny
swapped in a 1991 f150 5sp called a "MAZDA TK"
used all parts from the f150 and a ranger
new hyd slave/master, clutch,pres plate, throwout bearing and needle bearing, std drive starter ect.
this work was done in North Carolina.
Anyways,, in a short time i rung out the starter bendix. I installed a new starter and less then a month later the starter and flywheel ring gear were shot.
Advance let me swap out both parts for new ones. i used two long bolts in the top two holes in the bellhousing, removed the rest of the bolts, removed tranny mount and added a big block of wood there, dropped the driveshaft at the rear.
tied a wratchet strap to the tail shaft and the other end to the axle and slid the tranny backwards on the two long bolts in the bell.
i installed the new stuff,,,, and holly all this stuff repeated itself.
Now its time to investigate.
i found that the dumb asses had to make the standard drive starter head fit in the flex plate hole cause i could see where they ground down some metal in the flex plate hole. Im pissed now.
I figured out after looking at approx 80 ford 302 flex plates,, only 3 of them allowed a standard drive starter head to fit.
I lay up my original flex plate to the standard drive flex plate and sure enough,, the starter hole is slighly offset by no more than 1/16'' perhaps a little more but still, not much difference.
i got to thinking,, yeah,, my starter is ringing out and the flywheel is ringing out,, maybe my bendix is too far away from the flywheel.
I install 1 of the new flex plates i found and problem solved.
ever had flex plate issues where the orientation of the starter hole is just a weeee bit off?
this may be common sense to some people but i guess its not. I really wish those guys down in Morganton NC would have caught that during the job.
hell, they did not even know there was a difference in starters by comparrison of a auto to a standard drive. I knew that much.