so i got the new gasket and put it one today. went real smooth with the rain and all. wiggled it up there and i put the bolts though the gasket before hand so it was fast and no problems. then i waited and bent the hanger for the pass. side ler. got that done waited alittle longer. started to fill it up and once again it leaked. this time at the rear driver corner instead of the whole back.
and to top it off it wont turn over. the starter won't even click.
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Well i did the column to floor conversion (would never recommend it) an hung the duals today. as i was about to put a hanger on the pass. side i figured i'd fill the tranny before i forgot. so i found the flex funnel and started pouring. well as i got to the 9th or 10th qt. the funnel wasbacking up and then i hear some splashing over the radio. Yes when i but the gasket on last night at 1030 in the freezing cold i didnt have it sitting right and i should have known but i was tired and wanted to get it closed up before i went to bed.
so off to the parts store for more fluid and a new gasket. any hints tricks to get the pan up there without moving the gasket around?
i think i will put the corners in first and work from the middle out to the corners after that.
JUST MY LUCK. But you gotta learn somehow
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im doing the column to floor conversion and i have the pan off now what arm do i flip? want to make sure i dont mess it up.
Pics?????
running out of day light
running out of daylight.................
Does this (http://"http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/floorshift_aod.html") page not make it clear?
no that is what i was using to get this far.
The arm you flip is the one that your shifter linkage was hooked to.
I always love it when people dig into something like this without seeing what needs to be done beforehand......
As a rule of thumb bro, if you don't know what to do BEFORE you touch it, you probaly shouldn't work on it.
i knew what it involved before i started it. im just confused on what to flip. my luck ill flip the wrong arm and it will shift into 1st at 45. doubt that would happen but its just my luck.
I'll crawl under my car and get a pic of the part you need to flip tomorrow. If you can wait that long, I get home from school about 4-ish. Now mine is a column shift but the part is the same. If you want of course
so i flip the one on the outside of the tranny. but i need to loosen it from the jamnut ( having trouble getting it off) on the inside. what about the inside arms how do they get moved? Erics instruction on CoolCats are good but im not sure which is what if you see what i mean.
Again, do you want a pic tomorow?
yours is column? i still have all of that semi hooked up. but if you can it might help down the road
I'll try. Any other pics you or anyone else needs while I'm under teh car?
got it done thanks for the offer. i just couldn't see what was what so i didnt know what to flip
Ok, thats good to hear. I'd put a pic up here so incase some new guy has the same question he can see it ya know.
Dillon.. put some silicon on the pan and put the gasket on the pan first.. so you know your holes are all lined up..put a couple bolts through and stick it up on there..
-Clayton
weatherstrip adhesive works well for all gaskets,just don't overuse it.
think i put too much silicone on the first time and i know it wasnt lined up.
Now its raining, like that matters i have to get it done before saturday so i can pass emissions and get my tags. wont have time to finish it when school starts again
any one know why it wont turn the starter?
disconnected wire? sliced starter wire? battery hooked up?
oh and your leakin problem... do you have the dipstick tube all the way in?
it leaking/ pouring out on the rear driver corner.
battery hooked up and was on charger/starter when i tried to start it.
going to look at starter wires tomorrow
didja clean all your gasket edges beforehand?
and the not starting thing could be your NSS (neutral safty switch)
where and what is the NSS for. cleaned everything
The NSS is there to make sure you don't start it in gear and drive forward or backward unexpectedly, as for where I don't know!
I think it's on the left side of the tranny. Check the connecter, mine was dirty and greasy. Also make sure you lined the linkages up right. You may not be in park or netrual. This would cause the car not to turn over either. Go through th erang of gears and try to just turn the car over. If it turns and it's susposed to be in, say, drive then your linkages are off. Just adjust them and drive away.
on my 88 cougar with aod, the nss is on the driver's side of the tranny, up along the side. it's not very easy to get to. i used a ratchet with a swivel and an extension with my left arm over the passenger side and my right arm through the small area where i disconnected the linkage. no worries as far as it spilling tranny fluid on you're while removing it.
check to see if the reverse lights come on with just the power on and tranny in reverse. if they don't come on, then it IS your nss. also, be careful not to burn up the wire under the dash if it is your nss by repeatedly trying to crank it. i hope this helps some.
+1 on an issue with NSS
Going to look at starter wires and try the reverse lights. see what happens. How would i fix the NSS problem? just get it in the right gears?
yeah, it can be a bitch, but you just need to get it in the correct gears... hell.. run through em when tryin to start it inside the car..put it in a gear and try it.. and go through all the gears and do that.
First see if you're getting 12V at START on the little lb/r wire at the starter solenoid on the inner fender. If so...look at your starter.
If not...climb under the car and unplug the NSS plug and loop lb/r wire and see if it starts..... that will tell you if there is an issue with the NSS.
Do what with the who what?
starter solenoid on the fender by the Coil? and what does lb/r mean sorry just not understanding
Let's not get off track here,he did a floor shift install
and had problems from the beginning.It probably is the neutral switch.If it started before the switch,
Jump the wires like above don't be under the car though.
Geez--
Do you not know what a starter solenoid is?
lb/r= light blue/red. The little wire that's connected to the small post on the solenoid. When that get's 12V from the ignition, it triggers the relay in the solenoid and the starter gets the battery power. If you get no 12V during START at that little post, the starter will not go....
If you don't have that 12V...the NSS is probably to blame. If you do have 12V, then look to the solenoid or the starter.
On the jumpering the wires under the car. Unplug the connector at the NSS and make a little jumper wire and loop that lb/r wire at the connector (the chassis side...not the trans side). Then GET OUT FROM UNDER THE CAR and see if the car will start, or if you have 12V at that little post on the starter solenoid from the first step.
Dillon...
This is the wire on the S.S. that chuck is talking about
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Tcj429/rememberthis003.jpg)
and.. I believe this is the connector for the NSS
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Tcj429/rememberthis005.jpg)
sorry, I guess it is r/lb instead of lb/r...
thanks
so i pulled the pan and my dumbass over tightened it. now its a little warped.
so can i put the pan from the 88 on it?
the 88 pan doesn't have the little up groove inbetween the holes thats why im asking
aod right?
should work.
yes sur.
just wanted to check. cant afford another spill. 90 bucks in on gaskets and fluids
get-r-dun
Does it start now?
havent made it that far.
going to test that stuff right now.
as for the pan. im afraid that the gasket i put on there didnt seal right either cause it too me forever to get it up and bolted in place.
So im trading a guy around here a TC header panel for him to put it on, he is a mechanic, and has a bird. will tell him about here after the deal is done.
Good Deal For him?
STARTED.
only ran for a few seconds cause of the tranny being dry.
Flows sound really gooooooooooooddd