I went to get a new igniton rotor today. Took it off and went to get a new one from napa. Go throught all the questions and tell them that I have a 5.0. They bring me out a rotor for a 5.0. But it doesn't look like mine, at all. It turns out my car takes a V6 rotor on it. Why? It has a V8 TFI in it. It's a TFI distrubiter but why the hell does it have a V6 rotor in it? I know the engine came from an LTD but even on the engine list at napa, it says it's for a V6. Did I mess out on a detail here? Or am I loosing my F'in mind
the rotors that I've used in the past said 6 & 8 on top of the rotor
You can't have a V6 cap because it wouldn't have enough terminals on the top.
I didn't know there was a difference between 6 & 8 rotors, if there even is, but...You can't trust what a parts stores computer says all the time either. I 've had similar situations involving U-joints, sparkplugs, & even hoses just to name a few. Best thing is take the old one with you and try to find the guy behind the counter who doesn't look 12 years old.
The rotor in my V6 Bird says 6 & 8 on it also. Same rotor.
I know at the parts store I work at if I look up application by the part number it gives me a very generic desciption of what it is for. Even the illistrated book with pictures give you very py application list.
Ok, Napa is full of shiznit. I know that my car has a 5.p in it. Sorry for the random rant, it just kinds threw me off alittle bit.
Just go back and throw a brick through their front window, you'll feel alot better!
J.K.!
You have a 5.0 from an LTD? the only fox body LTD with a 5.0 was the LX, and those were HO's.
By LTD, he means Crown Vic.
Now thats something I didn't know. AS I was just beginning to learn cars at the point in which the motor was put in it, I'm going by which I was told. 1983 LTD with the 5.0. If it's an HO we'll know when I pull the CFI off and take the screens out over x-mas brake.
And I know LTD=Vic. We have the 90' LTD C.V. remember.
but explain this..............
V6=Small cap so the circle has a shorter radius
v8=Large cap so the circle has a longer radius
see v6 rotor sitting off to the side
Do you have a pic of the dizzy with the cap off yet?
Still lookin for my camara. I'll post a pic of the rotor they gave me though.
(http://www.pitstopparts.com/images/performance/images/msd/8467.jpg)
What they gave me and thats fits is like this, only it's grey. Now for the sake of asking, it it possable to run a V6 dizzy with a V8 cap on it? I don't know what the hell to think anymore, so I'll probaly just find another V8 TFI and swap that into the car.
the V8 has a plastic spacer between the cap and the dizzy. The spacer attaches to the dizzy by two screws. The dizzy cap clips onto the spacer. The cap is less than an inch tall , minus the standoffs.
the v6 cap attaches directly to the metal housing of the dizzy by two screws. The v6 cap is about 3'' tall as well.
as for the mechanical parts of the dizzy such as the shaft / housing / gear (minus all the electroinics and cap differences)
,,,,, i believe the oil pump shaft is a smaller in thickness than the v8. That would mean that the center part of the dizzy is not the correct one.
id have to look though.
See how easy i can count the blades that pass through my pick up module (hull effect)
as for your rotor button,,,,, chevy
anyone out there have an opinion???????????????
stop loosing that camera,,,lol
lol if that the rotor you got they did give you a chevy rotor. it's a 1974 & down point ignition rotor part number RR169R .. check the box and see what it says..
Napa book have bin off meny times and when i needed parts i would have to help them out with thw screw up..
my question to you is do you have a TFI distibutor "distibutor mounted module" for 1985 and up EFI engines.. or dura spark distibutor.. "fenderwell mounted module" for 1985 and down carb engines..
beleve it or not most people think ford uses very few style ignition parts over the years and in most cases thats true. but infact some cars from the mid to late 70's to the early 80's cars had wacky a$$ setups check it out 1980 ford LTD
heres the link i put in "i don't know" for everything so that it would list all the parts for all the difrent options..
http://www.napaonline.com/masterpages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=430&CatId=1&SubCatId=1
has anyone ever seen any of these rotors before?
oh and as for having a V6 distibutor in a V8 motor not going to happen it won't fit right. never mind the dizzy unless you try to screw the V6 dizzy on a V8 distibutor oh boy! missfire city!!
Nick
Well, they day after x-mas, I'll just pull the thing out, take some pics, then find out once and for all what's going on. And you guys say thats a Chevy rotor? Thats the style they gave me. According to the box, the part # is "FA142SB" Now according to the Napa website, thats http://www.napaonline.com//MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=MPE&PartNumber=FA142SB&Description=Distributor+Rotor (http://" Napa Website")
Your car can have either a push on or bolt on rotor. You have to know which your vehicle has before buying one.
Rockauto link for distributor rotors (clicky (http://"http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1140130,parttype,7136"))
-----------------------------Push-on----------------------------------------------------------Bolt-on
(http://info.rockauto.com/Motorcraft/DR380A.jpg)---(http://info.rockauto.com/Motorcraft/DR382.jpg)
the only reason i said it was a chevy rotor was because thats the picture you posted and yes i know that you sayed it looked something like that ;)
anyway
JeremyB is corect for your year car 1984 you should have one of those types if rotors..
and an FA142SB is a 6CYL rotor..
Nick
the only reason i said it was a chevy rotor was because thats the picture you posted and yes i know that you sayed it looked something like that ;)
anyway
JeremyB is corect for your year car 1984 with a 5.0 you should have one of those types if rotors..
either an FA144SB or an FA153SB those are NAPA part numbers..
and an FA142SB is a 6CYL rotor..
Nick
What all this boils down to 84fila is this.
what jeremy, nick and I are saying is you are out of the ballpark on what is normal on the engines we are use to. You are infact the only one that is using that type of rotor and even though it may work,, its not right for the "TYPE" of dizzy you have.
NICK
He has a TFI DIZZY just like anyone else running the 5.0 or 3.8 on this board.
For some odd reason, someone thought they had to make use of the threaded holes for a rotor button and thats probably the case.
84fila
we need pics of that dizzy with the following views.
looking down on the dizzy with and without the rotor
(there are reasons for this .. need to see if you have the lockin hole for the rotor button like all three of us mention. If there is no hole to lock in the rotor,, something is screwy.
we also would like to know what size oil pump shaft your running.
Id doubt seriously you have a red headed step child of an engine. Its probably just a result of someone mix matching parts to get it up and running.
Ill say it again,,, that cant ,, isnt and AINT the right rotor for your EECIV/TFI application.
as said earlier,, the V6 rotor will not interchange with the V8 dizzy. Im really not sure why some of the first responses indicated it would.
nick
those are some wacky ass rotor buttons. the one the right has me curious what the other set of contacts are for.
:laughing: :D
both of those rotors are for an 1980 V8 LTD
FA126 & FA127 depend on the options ie which distributor it had..
there where meny options in the mid to late 70's to the early 80's..
in those days ford did a lot of experimenting
http://www.napaonline.com/masterpages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=430&CatId=1&SubCatId=1
I have the bolt on one. It looks exactaly like that. Pics up soon, maybe tomorow.
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/84fila/000_1968.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/84fila/000_1966.jpg)
Take the part with you yes.
Talk to the old guy meh, i'm the youngest at my store but the only one whos better than i am is the manager.
So fling open the front door, stomp straight to the parts counter (mumbling and swearing to yourself under your breath), slam the old rotor down on the counter, and loudly demand to speak to the manager! :D
Well, I work there " part time" which means I stock when the truck comes and I push a broom. even I looked it up. Problem solved though. Now I have the old dizzy sitting on a shelf in my room
digging up the old here, searching for info on that dual point rotor the v6 supposedly had available and came across this and got me all confused.
did the 3.8 v6 ever have a bolt on rotor? every one ive seen had a push on one, and the all of the stock motorcraft ones ive seen had "4cyl&6cyl" cast on them. i tried to put a v8 "push on" into my distributor just for shiznits(since i had a v8 dist. laying around) and there is no way it would fit under there.
My '85 has a bolt on. The '87 is push on.
The original rotor from my '84 3.8 T-Bird
(http://mysite.verizon.net/vzetk5cc/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/Vintagerotor.jpg.w560h420.jpg)
guess it just depends on where you get them then, thanks for the closure