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Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: shorangerbird on November 14, 2006, 12:41:38 PM
-anyboy have an extra $1 mill laying around????:grinno:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1976-MERCURY-STARSKY-AND-HUTCH_W0QQitemZ260050936386QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6341QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: vinnietbird on November 14, 2006, 05:47:57 PM
At that price,it looks like he'll own it a little longer.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on November 14, 2006, 07:00:15 PM
That price is likely 100 times more than what that car would be worth. Seriously. A mint mid 70's Montego couldn't be worth more than $8200.

Starsky and Hutch? They drove a Torino, not a Montego. I could see the value of that car being double the "normal" value (as in, around $16k) IF the car actually had something to do with the show, but "being painted and optioned like" and "being authentic" are two different animals.

Four-bolt-main 460: Did they even make such a thing? If Ford even did make a 4-bolt 460 it surely wouldn't be a mid 70's 150-horse smog engine...

Bench seat and AM radio: just like a million others, I'd bet. Certainly nothing special. And  sure not $820k special...
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Post by: Ifixyawata on November 14, 2006, 07:05:22 PM
I don't even think an actual Starsky & Hutch car, I'm talking actually used in a show, IF one even still exists is worth that much.
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: tbirdscott on November 14, 2006, 11:08:57 PM
Nice car.



Just not for that price.


Scott.
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Post by: 84 Fila on November 14, 2006, 11:13:38 PM
There was a "real" S&H edition of the car. Not many were made but they are out there. Just not for a merc. The ones I heard of were Torino's
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: Beau on November 14, 2006, 11:21:12 PM
How many of y'all noticed the Fireturd in his pictures?

And $800,000.00+ for that....thing...? :beatyoass:
Dude, pass me some of the shiznit that guy is smokin', cause it must be good! :dunce:
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: HAVI on November 14, 2006, 11:31:19 PM
Couple years ago I bought a 76 Torino for $50.  pulled the engine and tranny, and sped the rest.  Kinda wish I had the car now....could be worth $150,000.
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Post by: vinnietbird on November 15, 2006, 12:09:53 AM
I remember seeing the S&H cars running around when I was a kid back in the 70's.I always wanted one.
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Post by: *MAYHEM* on November 15, 2006, 06:54:42 AM
Thing is, the S&H cars were Torinos. This one is a Merc. Montego from the factory. Only two of them built. In that condition with the low miles on it, you could ask ANY price.
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: Thunder Chicken on November 15, 2006, 09:12:30 AM
Yes, you could ask any price. Whether you'll get it is another story entirely...
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on November 15, 2006, 09:33:22 AM
wow still no bids i wonder why.:pbb:
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: *MAYHEM* on November 15, 2006, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;113716
Yes, you could ask any price. Whether you'll get it is another story entirely...
Remember, this is America. You nail together two things that have never been nailed together before and some dumb schmuck will pay a fortune for it.
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 15, 2006, 10:57:35 AM
Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;113668
How many of y'all noticed the Fireturd in his pictures?

And $800,000.00+ for that....thing...? :beatyoass:
Dude, pass me some of the shiznit that guy is smokin', cause it must be good! :dunce:

Amen Brother....

Quote from: *MAYHEM*;113721
Remember, this is America. You nail together two things that have never been nailed together before and some dumb schmuck will pay a fortune for it.

Captiolism at it's finest...

Well first off I'm 99.9% it's not a REAL S&H car. As already pointed out they were Torinos, but there is much more to the story than that.

I'm(OK was) a member of the FCA(Fairlane Club of America) so quite a bit of info has been researched on the S&H models... NEVER has a Montego been mentioned. Possibly the dealer pulled some strings and got Ford's Lorain Assembly Plant to paint a couple like S&Hs(paint code is blank, its 2B on the Torinos)... But paint doesn't make them real in the sense of being part of the original Torino S&Hs. All the REAL S&Hs have a six digit DSO that includes 0022 after the first two digits...

The Real cars were '76 Grand Torino's(not Broughams or std Torinos), assembled a the Chicago Plant, and were limited to 1000 copies(there are many clones)... 351's were std, but the 400 or 460 could be ordered...
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Post by: EricCoolCats on November 15, 2006, 11:10:54 AM
Oh, that's it. I want at least $1.3 million for mine then. It's one of ZERO baby!! All non-documentation included. Seller will deliver on pickup only. No warranty isn't not included via mail.

Sheesh...ya think this dude can be a little more convoluted? ;)

If a Ford is going to have an $800K starting price tag, it had better come with the Blonde BJ option. And Vaseline. And at least a case of beer.
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Post by: jkirchman on November 15, 2006, 12:52:38 PM
Good beer too.  None of that watered down .
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: shorangerbird on November 15, 2006, 01:37:22 PM
-ok, since i started this, and then read the info that turbocoupe50 had, so being as its VERY slow at work today, i decided to see what i could find on this thing....
ok first is 6, of course 1976
then H, lorain assy plant
03 is body, which translates to the 65B, montego 2dr hard top, MX formal roof.
then engine code A.  well regardless what he thinks, or is in there now, A is a non-HO, non police duty 460 of your garden variety.
it was a 4bbl, but code C would have been the "police" version.
the rest is consecutive build numbers.
trans U is a C6 automatic.
axle K is a 3.07 ratio with a locking rear end.
and the DSO 31 is the buffalo NY area.
Now according to my info , the paint code being blank indicates a special order paint, which inturn refers you to the four digits after the DSO(0022, tc50 said on s&h cars, 0055 on this one) in which would send you back to the dealer ordering guide for the option which was designating the paint and the color there of.
with out a dealer ordering guide for '76 there is no way I KNOW of to find out exactly what that is...
hope this helps a little......
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 15, 2006, 02:33:56 PM
HUUMMM... Begnning to rethink this one. The date of build is correct on the Merc, S&H production begain in March... The 0055 in the DSO has me wondering as well, possibly it's the equal to the 0022 on the Torinos... But again the Torino had a paint code. Maybe 2B was a std color(less stripe) for the Torino, but had no equal color for the Merc's, so it would be blank... There is a  service that would verify it's authenticity, and for that price he should include gold plated copies in addition to the features Eric mentioned.

My guess is it's a everyday Montego MX with the Torino 2B paint and probably dealer added stripe...

No matter if it was one of one(instead two) it ain't worth anywhere near his askin price... Maybe on a good day at Barrett Jackson it would bring about $30K. An original S&H Torino in the same condition would probably bring more... There are followers of these cars, but I always thought the '74-'76 Torino/Montego was FUGLY(I remember when they were new)

If I dig around I could probably find some more info, including a renunion picture of about 20 S&H cars...
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: shorangerbird on November 15, 2006, 02:59:21 PM
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;113748
  it ain't worth anywhere near his askin price......


-amen to that brother:screwy:
but i guess he had to start somewhere.  now he'll know he has to go DOWN! i would figure somewhere in the 20-30K range with all of the original stuff on it, and maybe some kinda proof...:toilet:
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: EricCoolCats on November 15, 2006, 03:04:44 PM
...and a midget in the trunk. You know, in case you need to change tires or put gas in. He can reach that stuff no problem.

That trunk is big. It needs a Jacuzzi. That will give the midget something to clean between fill-ups.

Now, where do we put the butler...?
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: shorangerbird on November 15, 2006, 03:31:35 PM
-TRUNK MONKEY!!!!!:spit:
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 15, 2006, 03:32:17 PM
Well the pix I was thinking about is on the net already...

http://www.starskytorino.com/reunions/2003/autofest/14s&htorinos.jpg

One bit of info in the Fairlane Club mag that I didn't see on the net describes the paint procedure. First the cars were painted with two coats of white in the areas to be the stripe(front fenders, doors and upper rear quarters). That area was then masked with the special striping and the whole car received three coats of the 2B red paint. Due to this special prep and painting , this is why only the Chicago plant mfg'd these Torino's. I'm sure there were at least two other assembly plants building Torinos in '76...
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: 84 Fila on November 15, 2006, 05:50:49 PM
Here is a S&S for sale. Alot less then a Mil but it shows what one of these is worth.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=190045985975 (http://"http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=190045985975")
Title: E-i-e-i-o!!!
Post by: HAVI on November 15, 2006, 07:34:49 PM
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Maybe 2B was a std color(less stripe) for the Torino


It was..it's Bright Red....standard for an Elite, Granada, Pinto, Maverick, Torino, and Ranchero.

I'm also a FCA member.  I looked at it again today and still zero bids.