General => Lounge => Topic started by: Cougarcruisin on November 14, 2006, 11:43:43 AM
Title: New ride.
Post by: Cougarcruisin on November 14, 2006, 11:43:43 AM
Well guys my saab just about took a :shakeass: on me and decided it was now or never to trade it in for what little it was worth.
After test driving cars all day I fell in love with the Cobalt SS. Bought her on the spot. 2007 Chevy Cobalt SS. I love it.
My cougar will never be sold. She'll be warm and happy in my garage until I get out of school to do a engine swap or a rebuild. I just dont have the time and money right now to get her power back. But I have the fiberglass gfx for her so I'll have it all whenever the time comes again for the cougar. Hopefully I can replace the injectors back to 5.0SO again so she'll run normal. Just leaky rearmain so I can make it to cj.
But here is my victory red cobalt ss. Yes it's a chevy but I really enjoy it.
Title: New ride.
Post by: cougarcragar on November 14, 2006, 11:51:11 AM
Cool, man! I've seen a few of those cars up close at my dealerships. Is it a stick-shift?
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on November 14, 2006, 12:11:26 PM
More importantly, is it supercharged? :D
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Post by: Ether947 on November 14, 2006, 12:14:16 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;113495
More importantly, is it supercharged? :D
That is indeed the question!
I hate to say it but I actually like those cars. Just needs less ride hieght and it's golden. :grinno:
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Post by: V8Demon on November 14, 2006, 12:26:44 PM
SS= supercharged 205 HP mid to low 14's in the 1320.
Where did you take the pics? I may be looking to invest in a 2nd house in PA within 2 years if all goes well.
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Post by: slamedcat on November 14, 2006, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: Paul Flockhart;113499
SS= supercharged 205 HP mid to low 14's in the 1320.
SS is a trim package.
http://www.chevrolet.com/cobalt/
They made the SS both superchaged and NA.
Did you get the optional 7 speaker sound system?
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Post by: *MAYHEM* on November 14, 2006, 01:03:23 PM
So we lost another one to front spinners?
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Post by: David on November 14, 2006, 01:20:47 PM
Well I know my next new car will be a FWD. Can't beat 50 mpg.
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Post by: shorangerbird on November 14, 2006, 01:39:53 PM
-i guess nobody saw the other day consumer reports top 5 LEAST reliable vehicles included the chevy colbalt......
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Post by: oldraven on November 14, 2006, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;113495
More importantly, is it supercharged? :D
The Supercharged ones have an actual 'Supercharged' emblem under the SS badge. This is N/A.
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Post by: EricCoolCats on November 14, 2006, 03:37:26 PM
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i guess nobody saw the other day consumer reports top 5 LEAST reliable vehicles included the chevy colbalt......
F Consumer Reports. They've been biased toward puppiesanese cars for over two decades now. Know what they ranked better than the Cobalt? The Honda Fit and Toyota Prius. You know...the two tiny clown cars that just came out. They haven't even been on the market long enough for a credible reliability record! And yet they beat the Cobalt, a car that's in its third year of production?! I don't think so. The Cobalt is made 35 miles from me and there's always positive news about it, both with national and local news stories. This has been the ONLY negative report about the Cobalt, hands down.
Do you know how CR does their research? They poll their readers. In other words, they're preaching to the choir. So, say 3,500 Fit owners reports good reliability, but 2,500 Cobalt owners report the same. Who's going to get more weight bias, do you think?
CR has been painfully fair with most Fords from the past 20 years (FYI, they really, really liked our cars back in the day, especially vs. their GM competition). And now they really seem to like the Fusion/Milan/MKZ, which are deserving cars. What CR has never done is fairly compare vehicles from the Big Three vs. the Asian imports. So we win...against ourselves. As far as CR is concerned, puppiesan rules the world and tells all of its readers about it.
Again, F Consumer Reports.
And thank you, Steve, for supporting my local economy.
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Post by: *MAYHEM* on November 14, 2006, 04:06:28 PM
Quote from: EricCoolCats;113532
F Consumer Reports. They've been biased toward puppiesanese cars for over two decades now. Know what they ranked better than the Cobalt? The Honda Fit and Toyota Prius. You know...the two tiny clown cars that just came out. They haven't even been on the market long enough for a credible reliability record! And yet they beat the Cobalt, a car that's in its third year of production?! I don't think so. The Cobalt is made 35 miles from me and there's always positive news about it, both with national and local news stories. This has been the ONLY negative report about the Cobalt, hands down.
Do you know how CR does their research? They poll their readers. In other words, they're preaching to the choir. So, say 3,500 Fit owners reports good reliability, but 2,500 Cobalt owners report the same. Who's going to get more weight bias, do you think?
CR has been painfully fair with most Fords from the past 20 years (FYI, they really, really liked our cars back in the day, especially vs. their GM competition). And now they really seem to like the Fusion/Milan/MKZ, which are deserving cars. What CR has never done is fairly compare vehicles from the Big Three vs. the Asian imports. So we win...against ourselves. As far as CR is concerned, puppiesan rules the world and tells all of its readers about it.
Again, F Consumer Reports.
And thank you, Steve, for supporting my local economy.
Ralph Nader is on the board of directors, what did you expect?
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Post by: slamedcat on November 14, 2006, 04:21:29 PM
Quote from: *MAYHEM*;113533
Ralph Nader is on the board of directors, what did you expect?
Some where in the article for it to say "Unsafe at any speed!" :grinno:
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Post by: Red_LX on November 14, 2006, 05:08:05 PM
Yeah according to Consumer Reports, the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord have been the only cars worth buying for about the last 15 years or more...
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Post by: Ifixyawata on November 14, 2006, 06:25:42 PM
Sheesh. You guys didn't bust my balls like this when I bought a Neon. And my Neon's one of the most hated-on, py-ass, cheaply-built cars EVAR. I was looking at the Cobalt too, before I made the hasty decision to get the Peon. Kinda wish I would've waited and thought about it more now, but oh well.
Steve, good purchase. I think your 4x4 look will subside a bit once the car gets the suspension broken in. I know my car did the same thing. A set of coils and struts couldn't hurt it though. What kinda payments you making? Hah, mine won't be paid off till 2010.
And, if I'm not mistaken, the SS N/A does have a few more ponies than a Cobalt base model (what is it, LT?)
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Post by: Carl on November 14, 2006, 06:31:39 PM
I like the Colbalt! Nice Car!
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on November 14, 2006, 06:48:33 PM
Quote from: Ifixyawata;113561
And, if I'm not mistaken, the SS N/A does have a few more ponies than a Cobalt base model (what is it, LT?)
I believe the non-supercharged SS has 170 horses or thereabout. The base has somewhere in the neighbourhood of 150.
Eric: I wholeheartedly agree with the F consumer reports thing. How many times has that magazine been proven to fraudulently skew tests to make them come out the way they want (the Suzuki Samurai rollover and Chevy truck gas tank explosions come readily to mind) before people stop believing what those hacks have to say???
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Post by: 88turbo on November 14, 2006, 06:55:52 PM
they need bigger wheels....
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Post by: Ifixyawata on November 14, 2006, 07:00:02 PM
Quote from: 88turbo;113568
they need bigger wheels....
Bigger than 17's? Poop.
Looks like the SS S/C wheels are clones, just one inch bigger.
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Post by: oldraven on November 14, 2006, 07:42:40 PM
Quote from: *MAYHEM*;113533
Ralph Nader is on the board of directors, what did you expect?
+1
Ifixyawata, I learned a while ago that any car can be welcome on a Ford board, so long as it's not a bowtie. ;)
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Post by: Ifixyawata on November 14, 2006, 07:46:19 PM
Quote from: oldraven;113580
+1
Ifixyawata, I learned a while ago that any car can be welcome on a Ford board, so long as it's not a bowtie. ;)
I don't think all of us are against bowties. Just morons swapping SBCs into Fords.
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Post by: Ifixyawata on November 14, 2006, 07:50:42 PM
Yeah, let me also say this about CR. F 'em.
I looked at the worst cars of 2005 and guess what? '05 Neon is on there. Guess why? That's right, residual value. Because a car isn't worth having unless it spuppiess some positive equity.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on November 14, 2006, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: Cougarcruisin;113486
Well guys my saab just about took a :shakeass: on me and decided it was now or never to trade it in for what little it was worth.
After test driving cars all day I fell in love with the Cobalt SS. Bought her on the spot. 2007 Chevy Cobalt SS. I love it.
My cougar will never be sold. She'll be warm and happy in my garage until I get out of school to do a engine swap or a rebuild. I just dont have the time and money right now to get her power back. But I have the fiberglass gfx for her so I'll have it all whenever the time comes again for the cougar. Hopefully I can replace the injectors back to 5.0SO again so she'll run normal. Just leaky rearmain so I can make it to cj.
But here is my victory red cobalt ss. Yes it's a chevy but I really enjoy it.
Where did you go in the pic by the door? I can't see you :grinno:
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Post by: thunderjet302 on November 14, 2006, 08:48:44 PM
BTW nice car:cool:
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Post by: Clayton on November 14, 2006, 08:54:37 PM
nice, if it were lower... supercharged....and black .. you'd have to hide it lol those cars drive badass.
and btw... (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Tcj429/2115736_70_full.jpg)
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Post by: Ifixyawata on November 14, 2006, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;113601
and btw... (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Tcj429/2115736_70_full.jpg)
Get back to me on that once it starts snowing.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on November 14, 2006, 09:18:56 PM
You can go *drifting* in the snow with rear wheel drive:grinno:
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Post by: Clayton on November 14, 2006, 09:21:49 PM
Quote from: Ifixyawata;113607
Get back to me on that once it starts snowing.
I vote.... No.
and it was sopposed to be a joke ;)
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Post by: Ifixyawata on November 14, 2006, 09:24:33 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;113612
You can go *drifting* in the snow with rear wheel drive:grinno:
Very true. I've done this more times than I'd like to admit.
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;113613
I vote.... No.
and it was sopposed to be a joke ;)
NO JOKES about TEH M4DD FWD, you jerk. FWD FTW!!!!1!!1
Seriously, though, FWD in Snow > RWD in Snow. Granted, my experiences are based on a peg-leg RWD car, I never got a chance to try out the T-L rear in the snow.
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Post by: Clayton on November 14, 2006, 09:31:42 PM
Quote from: Ifixyawata;113615
Seriously, though, FWD in Snow > RWD in Snow. Granted, my experiences are based on a peg-leg RWD car, I never got a chance to try out the T-L rear in the snow.
Very true, but with the right ammount of stuff in the trunk and a light foot... a rwd car can be just as nice as a fwd car.... but im biased.. i dont like the 03 Intrepid i get the priveledge to drive its fwd... and squirrelyer than the bird is in the snow.
Its all in how you drive the car.
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Post by: slamedcat on November 14, 2006, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: Ifixyawata;113615
Granted, my experiences are based on a peg-leg RWD car, I never got a chance to try out the T-L rear in the snow.
Don't worry you would have ended up in a ditch even sooner. I layed the Cougar in one on the interstate last year then backed it out and drove home.
I agree for the FWD>RWD in snow. But I blew the tempo up so I get to drive the new bird in the snow.
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Post by: nirvanagod on November 14, 2006, 10:08:19 PM
The only time in the 2 years that I had my Bird, I only once got it stuck so bad that I couldn't get it get it out. Even then it was only because mother nature thought it would be funny to melt the ice just enough to sink the tires then refreeze to trap them. Beyond that I was always able to keep the car in check in the snow.
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Post by: David on November 14, 2006, 10:24:02 PM
You know... you just have to move somewhere that you'll never see snow again!
That's my solution at least.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on November 14, 2006, 10:27:21 PM
FWD may be better than RWD in the snow, but considering that there are about 360 days without snow and 5 days with (I mean snow on the actual roads, not snow on the lawns, etc) it's a pretty bad tradeoff (if that's the only reason you could come up with for FWD). If I were gonna buy a small FWD car it'd be for fuel economy and passenger room, not traction (and fuel economy only because most fuel efficient cars happen to be FWD).
Truth be told, for 98% of drivers (including most of us most of the time) it doesn't really matter which wheels are driving the car. It might matter to us on a psychological level, but not on a practical one, at least until you put the car on a track (in favour of RWD) or in snow (in favour of FWD).
And for those of you who say you can drift in a RWD car - try reefing the handbrake and mashing the gas in a FWD car some time. It gets pretty fun, especially in the snow :hick:
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Post by: 20th anny 5.o on November 14, 2006, 10:28:04 PM
Nice colbolt my move was to a 2000 cougar, had to put the 87 up.
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Post by: *MAYHEM* on November 14, 2006, 10:48:00 PM
Quote from: oldraven;113580
+1
Ifixyawata, I learned a while ago that any car can be welcome on a Ford board, so long as it's not a bowtie. ;)
FWD is an immediate fail in my book. Bowtie or otherwise.
BTW: Trick to driving in snow? Remember snow and ice are slippery and adjust accordingly. I don't care if you have four-wheel drive, doing 75 an a snow covered highway is STUPID.
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Post by: Red_LX on November 14, 2006, 10:51:16 PM
Hell, I thought my '90 Mustang 2.3 with a peg-leg rear went through the snow as good as or better than my '94 Tempo does...
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Post by: Ifixyawata on November 14, 2006, 10:59:34 PM
Nevermind it all. RWD > FWD in all ways.
I love my car but I'd rather drive FWD in the snow, I guess that's just how I am. Say all you want, but that's my preference. Sure, with good tires and cautious driving there's no reason you couldn't get around all winter on RWD. Hell, I did it for three years.
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Post by: Cougarcruisin on November 14, 2006, 11:16:18 PM
Yea... for me being 20 years old the supercharge one would been 390 per month just for insurance. Plus an extra 3k to the sticker price. It was out of my reach and I couldn't afford the payment plus an insane insurance payment.
F consumer reports they are gay. Car TV ranked the cobalt #3 on sport compacts in all aspects. VW GTI 1st, i dont remember what was second. But it doesnt matter.
Another reason why I purchased this SS is because after searching online at other car clubs and such for cars, cobalts ss are the only cars that I dont see being riced out to the max. They all are mostly kept the way they come. Which is cool with me.
Eric, your welcome bud for the economy boost.
Yes, it has the 7 speaker Pioneer system in it. The subwoofer in the back that came factory hits amazing! I love how the cd player plays Mp3s, it automatically sorts ID3 tags when you insert an Mp3 file format cd, reorders the whole cd so that it plays by artist and not what order the cd was burnt in. Plus has inputs for IPODs or any mp3 player just to plug right in.
I test drove the 2.0 supercharged SS and to be honest with you, my 2.4 felt just as peppy. It was kinda close for some odd reason. The cheaper cost and cheaper insurance is what bought me on it. Plus GM's warrenty is out of this world. Yes its a chevy but hey I'll still and always will have a special place in my heart for Ford's.
As for the wheel gap, yes.. something needs to be done. Its the only drawback that I dont like about it so far. The car rides really really high when you sit next to other cars on the road, and judging by it's wheel gap. Coils are the first thing I'm doing when I get the extra money.
Thanks guys for all the comments, I'm glad that I wont be disliked or anything now for owning anything non-ford. Haha good thing we aren't like those mustang clubs. haha
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Post by: 5.0willgo on November 15, 2006, 10:34:25 PM
Cool Steve, congrats on the purchase.
I really like the Cobalts as well as the G5s. If they were out when I was looking for a car, I may have brought one home instead of the Tib.
Oh and as far as a foreign car not supporting the economy, yes my Tib was made in Korea but now their making the Sonata in the U.S. so Hyundai is doing it's part for the U.S. :shakeass:
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Post by: Carl on November 15, 2006, 11:48:20 PM
It's good to see everyone is getting a nice Daily Driver! Now hopefully all of us will have time to work on our Cats/Birds
btw about insurance, insurance with my current company is crazy. I checked out insurance with Allstate and will be getting it. only $600 every 6 months. As opposed to $1500. -__-
the Eclipse really jumped my insurance by like a grand with my current company.
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Post by: capitlj on November 16, 2006, 12:51:14 PM
meh they are nice LITTLE cars, but too little for my 6'4 frame