It seems to me that if someone doesn't like a thread they go and get someone to lock it. I thought that we were here to help each other and not dog on each other. But it always seems that people disagree and then the thread ends up locked. I undestand that not everyone is going to like eveythings other have to say but don't people have the right to have and opinion. Or is this a comunist board where they cut you off because they don't agree with what you say or want to read it. You always have the right to look at other threads. I know I know this is gonna end up locked too. But is there any reason that makes logical sense as to why they lock these threads. I can see if they are out right cursing or somthing like that. But what is the point to lock it if people are arguing. Isn't arguing part of life. Maybe we should just disband the board because we don't like what other have to say or someone disagrees with someone else. It all boils down to freedom of thought and everyone has that. I guess people should stop puppiesg on others just because they disagree but we all know that isn't going to happen RIGHT! So to all those that wanna reply do so or go ahead and lock this thread too. Atleast I had a chance to vent what is bouncing around in my head about this. So if you are a mod/member and feel like it or plan ole don't like me or my ideas do what you gotta do. But I suspect very soon that everythread will be locked and there will be no point to this place or anyone helping anyone. Once again I bet I'am asking for it but I'm a big boy and I can take it.
IN B4 LOCK!!1!one!!1!
I agree. To me it seems certain comments tick people off, but some people have been taking way too seriously. To each his own. Everyone has their own opinion. Im here for the long run, let people say what they want, just act like adults in the process.
Go jermey B go. I personally was wanting to see how many people could post before this gets locked.
I'm probably partly responsible for the big lock-fest that happened over the last 24 hours. I had second guessed replying to TurboChicken's thread but only commenting about the speed, but I did it anyway. Once he replied back that he doesn't do that sort of driving on public roads, I issued no further comment in regards to the speed. I've PMed him regarding that post. On a side note, what really doesn't compute, for me anyway, is that I've spoken with said thread starter at CJ and was able to maintain a civil exchange of dialog. Oh well.
Now, why there were two separate new threads made calling out people's usernames and requesting bans? I don't know. But I think personal issues being discussed that way is the reason for the ban of those two threads. As for the 'Overspeed' thread, well... it derrailed into hell. I would've PMed the starter of those threads to try and discuss it, but was unable to.
The locks/bans on this board have significantly increased with the upgrade to the new server/software (remember slEZ-Board?). Probably because it's easier for trollish people to get in. Don't get me wrong. I am NOT suggesting:
a.) We go back to EZ Board.
b.) Anyone involved in today's blitzkrieg was trolling. Just conflicting opinions and fevered egos.
I've seen boards a LOT worse than this one. Something like one lock every week or couple days or more. The only one we've had for a long while before this one was only done at the request of the original poster and wasn't mandated by moderators. I dunno... I would definitely not call this a communist board, though. I've seen places where folks who post topics in the wrong sections more than twice are banned. Yeah. Let's count our blessings here.
I wasn't saying that this a comunist board just using that comment for the Shock effect.
All the info you need is right here: http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=2
Pay particular attention to rule #6 *edit* I can't believe I didnt use this smily: :rules:
Eric, Baxo and myself put up with a lot, and nobody could ever accuse this board of being over-moderated, but we do have our limits. When discussions devolve to a certain point those limits are exceeded (or the thread starter requests that the thread is closed) and the thread is closed. We generally do not take any sides, and we take no further action. Bannings are extremely rare around here - so rare in fact that I think the only members in the official shiznitlist are there for spamming. We try to maintain the civility this board has always had (and we've been proud of), and the only way to do so is douse the flames before the fire gets out of hand. If the people involved in the flame wars want to carry on their silliness they can do so in private messaging.
That was hilarious! all I suggested was the user fill out their personal info as should everyone else on the board, at the very least a country and age should be there.
I just sit back and enjoy the ride, no point in wasting life arguing about nonsense, I just read along and laugh.
Life is what you make it, and i'm making mine a fair ride!
Oh and I dont believe this board or the old one has ever been over moderated.
IMHO the moderators around here do an excellent job
If you wana see overmoderated go to hotrodders.com, you cant say 'boo' over there without having your post edited because it might scare somebody.
Whaa haa haa another post GOOD GOOD VERY GOOD!
I thought he was kidding about banning you. If not, then it all went over my head.
Ahh, yes, the request for banning. When we, the administrators, see one member calling for the banning of another member, we do one thing:
We ignore it.
We and we alone decide who is and who isn't banned. We may or may not even acknowledge a complaint against another member. We don't accept suggestions on who to ban and who to let stay. If a thread is brought to our attention we will take appropriate action (or no action at all, our choice). I think in the few years this board has been online one, maybe two, legitimate users have been banned, and belive me, they really, REALLY deserved it if they got it. Spammers are open season, of course :beatyoass:
I think this board is very clean and civil, and that is why this is the only one I've joined. And while people do have a right to opinons, they need to remember that not everyone agrees, so they will catch some flak. Just reply civily and move on. And if the Morderators do lock it, they have a good reason.
just my:2c:
Believe me, this place is No communist board. There may be a few liberals around here, but communist? No.
Maybe because I haven't around long enough, but there does not seem to be a lot of lockings going on.
From my own personal experience, I used to post (and still do from time to time) on a very large message board, huge would be a better word to use. This place had lockings every single day, on an almost hourly basis. Hundreds of forums, moderators galor, and chaos.
I posted on those boards starting in late 2002. At the time, the place was relatively small compared to now. And therefore, the bannings, locking of threads, and other problems were minimal. There was a sense of community, very much like these boards. They were still small enough that you generally knew everyone. Over the course of the past 4 years, the place Boomed, and I mean, BOOMED. Like, from a couple hundred members, to THOUSANDS.
This place really reminds me of those boards when I started posting there. There is a sense of community, and everyone generally knows the other members. And there are few problems.
Now, will this place explode in population like the boards I mentioned? I don't know. All I do know is that right now, in it's current state, I wouldn't worry too much about the current goings-on. A few years down the road....who knows?
I can't see our population suddenly exploding unless somebody finds a hidden cache of for T-Birds and Cougars. Possibly the only advantage to being devoted to 20+ year old cars :cougarsmily::birdsmily:
Go over to some of the Neon boards I go to if you wanna see bad flame wars. They LOVE to reply with "USE THE SEARCH" comment. A whole lot of 'sell your car and buy a honda' replies to technical questions. And the very worst thing is, in my opinion, is when someone's bold enough to post pictures of thier car. I've not once seen a picture post thread where a car didn't get critcized. And I'm not talking "I'd do this different..." I'm talking: "Change this, this, and that". Then again, I guess those are the sort of things you open yourself up to when you post pictures online.
MU haha ha more posting GOOD VERY GOOD. Now I guess the new question is can we get everyone to post on one thread without it getting out of hand or getting locked?
Heh... some of us are sleeping. Give it 24 hours. I hope it won't get locked, but you never know with the volatile nature lately.
All of the threads that were locked were done so with good reason.
They were not productive in actually helping the person with their question, thus were and were locked.
:cougarsmily: and :birdsmily: are classy cars and this board has class as well. Lets try to keep things that way!
I can't resist it any longer!
Hell, wanna criticize my car? Go ahead, I'll join in! It IS a piece of shiznit...but ya know what, with some hints and ideas from some of y'all, one of these days, it will be a bad-ass ride.
As far as the other deal, the thread locking stuff, well, everyone has their opinion, and while I won't always agree with it, I will agree with that person's right to it. Yeah, it is kinda risky and not very wise running a car 120 mph on an open road, but, he didn't say it was crowded, or such as that, which is still irrelevant, there are laws, you break 'em, and you pay. He didn't get arrested, nor wipeout, nor kill anybody, and I think it was a bit harsh on a couple of the comments, but that's my OPINION. And I think it was well handled, thread was locked, and the rest of the ordeal was taken to pm's.
Anyway, I think the mods here do a hell of a job, I can tell you from personal experience moderating a chatroom, and a discussion forum isn't an easy task-the ones i have are nowhere this big.
And, you wanna talk about "commy" moderation, go check out a certain truck/suv forum, and I don't mean a toyota board...I've been there for awhile, and it's gotten to the point I don't post there anymore. With that said, I think we all should sometimes agree to disagree and be done with our beef's against each other...
Hell, I've been 120+ on an open highway in my tbird....stupid, yes.
will i do it again, maybe, and maybe not, given better brakes, susp. and tires...and..and....but, who's to say a $40,000.00 car couldn't have a mechanical failure, and cause a crash?
Anyway, I'm not tryin to keep the drama going, just wanted to voice my opinion(s) here...and in no way do i mean anything against anybody personally.
Thats it give into temptation! Mu ha ha ha. I'm lovin it and this aint Micky D's. How many more members can we get to post in this tread? One may never know!
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I think we're all just a wee bit of an: (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/graphics%20and%20icons/attention.gif)
Since I'm ho'ing around you guys better pay up or I'll wait untill you fall asleep and then I'll take all your money. So pay up! LOL LOL
I have no idea what's going on right now.
thats whats so great about all this!!! theres not that many people interested in these cars, so we shall stay a small and more tightly knit community. im sure some of us wish our cars were really popular but then we might have a crazy forum. it really is nice having everybody know everybody and less problems because of a lower population, IMO.
The voices in my head say You're all :asshole: S!!
:iagree: :slap:
-WHAD' I SAY? WHAD' I SAY???:pbb:
sorry, im from alabama. thats my excuse and im sticking to it..:bricks1:
OK. Here's the real question. Does anyone here know the diference between Communism and Totalitarian systems? It doesn't sound like it. Get it right, or you sound like Peter Gryphon.
ps
I typed this on my PSP! the cool
:sleep:
Oh I'm sorry, was something going on I should have been paying attention to?
Go Outside
Hey, that's pretty cool!
I was quite amazed that a request was made to ban specific people due to a disagreement with those persons while those persons, IMHO had done nothing negative against the boards. Having a disagreement with someone is part of everyday life. We have them all the time. Most people either work their way through it or learn to work around it.
How silly would it be for me to request someone be banned simply because they stated they don't like my car because of the color and I said my color was "teh coolness" and their reply was "umm, no". I realize the topics discussed had potential to get a little more heated than that, but I think you get the idea.
Good point. When we have an arguement with our neighbour, do we call the cops and request they remove your neighbour from the hood?
It's time for another metaphor. Message boards are like oceans. Full of strange fish, and once in a while there's an oilspill. It gets cleaned up and the fish keep on swimming. We don't get very many oilspills on the fox t/c board, and when they happen, we rarely loose a fish over it. Stick that in my pipe and smoke it. :dunce:
Thats what I do. I don't want my paint to get scratched by her buttons and zippers as I drag her off the hood of my car myself. At least if the cop is there I can file a police report and have the neighbor cited for vandalism, and then have their insurance company pay for the damage.
Here where I live I just stay inside and keep to myself. Most of my neighbors are a bunch of Dumb shags! If I don't go near them they can't piss me off and so on. ANy how keep those post coming.
Some of you don't realize just how good you have it here. I'd much rather see the occasional locked thread than either of the alternatives, rampant bannings or total chaos.
I won't mince words.. Eric and I (for example) have had some pretty significant altercations in my time here.. but not once do I ever recall him threatening to ban me over it. We may never see eye to eye on some things, but I have respect for him for not taking the easy route. The other two admins conduct themselves similarly. This is a major plus for this place.
If some of you tire of the antics of others, there's always the Ignore User feature. I suggest trying that out rather than publicly calling for bannings and posting multiple threads about their transgressions.
Now you see Ben exercises his right to this rule, as he can't see my response because he has banned me.
Anyway. I've disgusted myself with responding to this thread. :dunce:
The reason for the thread locking is simple. People have opinions. People done like opinions. People start an "e-fight". Thread gets locked.
If an opinion was discussed, rather than trash talked, there would be no thread locking.
Best reply to this thread ever.
In respect, the admin do an awesome job of keeping this board up and running..
People have hot tempers.. Ill admit.. I do to a point, but showing it over the internet isnt gonna get ya anywhere.... being calm cool and collected is what its all about
Yes, I enjoy some of the "hate on this" threads cause I like to see diversity in oppinions.
keep it going admin
an e-fight is like racing a honda.. even if you win you're still retarded.
:beatyoass:
i leave... i come back, everything different. =/
Ahhh yeah, havnt been to FTE in quite some time, What a bunch of dry old men there are there :sleep:
On a completely unrelated note, somebody ran over a skunk about 300 yards from my house tonight. Not pleasant. It actually seems to be getting stronger. Hopefully the person in the house directly in front of the mess will get rid of it somehow (and if it ends up in my yard it'll be going through his window)
Dig ya a hole and throw it in it :pbb:
My opinion is just that, my opinion. Every day I get behind the wheel I'm always trying to keep an eye out for some knuckle dragger whose decision to drive fast and or wrecklessly could involve me in a major accident. I couldn't go on if anything ever happened to my three year old daughter, my fifteen year old son, or my wife, especially if it were due to someone elses flagarent stupidity behind the wheel.
I spoke my opinion, and I stand by it. If that makes me an idiot, well, then so be it. I'm an idiot. If someone else doesn't care for my thoughts, that's fine as well. Why? Because thats their opinion, and I stand by their ability to have it and speak it. That's all I have to say about the subject. Please continue with the normal whitty banner.:crazy:
Wow, I'm lost but I've been gone a couple days. Time to read up!
on a lighter note, My 1800th post. woopeeeee
Oh My God ! WTF happened here ?
I left yesterday to drink some beer and coming today back to home and i see communism , a bunch of treads lockeds, seems like a Napalm bomb exploded here......
Hey ipsd, the Bandpass Subwoofer Box Rocks!!!! thanks again for the Help!
Hey, does downloading MP3´s is downloading communism ?
(Ups, i spilled my beer.....)
I´ll be coming back in a few hours and try to understand what happened here.....ill gonna apply some of the advices in the thread about drinking & hangovers.......yep, the B12 works ! (thanks gunkel)
Glad to here that Mexcougar. Just trying to help with what I can.
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Originally Posted by Thunder Chicken
On a completely unrelated note, somebody ran over a skunk about 300 yards from my house tonight. Not pleasant. It actually seems to be getting stronger. Hopefully the person in the house directly in front of the mess will get rid of it somehow (and if it ends up in my yard it'll be going through his window)
Dig ya a hole and throw it in it:pbb:
Yeah what he said :iagree:
:pics-stfu:
:birdsmily: rule btw.
EDIT-W00t 302 posts!!
:beatyoass: boys!
Ya'll need a good azz whoopin!:pbb:
(Trying to calm down...)
mmmm, well, here is the bandpass box, mom helped me to upholster it.
(http://teaca.iespana.es/ximages/bandpass.jpg)
Technical questions about the box, just ask ipsd......
Sounds pretty good....