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General => General Fox T-Bird/Cougar Discussion => Topic started by: quicksilver on September 25, 2006, 10:29:11 PM

Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: quicksilver on September 25, 2006, 10:29:11 PM
what is the difference between the lx and the sportcoupe?
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on September 25, 2006, 11:30:52 PM
The LX is more geared toward luxury while the Sport is more toward, well, sport :hick: The Sport has a floor shifter, heavy sway bars, traction-lock rear end, full digital (87) or buttstuffogue (88) dash, TC seats (88 only), thicker sway bars, stiffer springs, 10" drums, etc. The LX has thicker carpeting, more luxurious seat coverings, and usually are fully loaded. Oh, and the Sport is V8 only while the LX can be V6 or V8

The LX is identified by a serial number starting with 1FABP62, while the Sport starts out 1FABP61. A base has 1FABP60 and a TC is 1FABP64
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: grutinator on September 25, 2006, 11:35:24 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;105701
The LX is identified by a serial number starting with 1FABP62, while the Sport starts out 1FABP61. A base has 1FABP60 and a TC is 1FABP64


what happened to 1FABP63?
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: Vantage08 on September 25, 2006, 11:53:51 PM
HMm i checked mine and it fits the base model, but it has many options on it which makes me think it really is an LX..i have all origional documentation..maybe i should check it lol
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: quicksilver on September 26, 2006, 12:13:03 AM
so the sports are faster?
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: Beau on September 26, 2006, 01:13:25 AM
Vantage, my first '88 was an LX, and my white one in my sig is an '88 Base, but both optioned identically.

And yeah, any sport will be quicker than a V6 car, and maybe a a teenie tiny bit faster than an LX v8...then again, maybe not...
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: DMC24guy on September 26, 2006, 02:36:13 AM
Well, assuming you had a Sport Vs. A v6 LX, yes, it would be faster, but if both cars came with the 5.0, performance wise they would be identical.
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: Nate on September 26, 2006, 06:48:59 AM
the sport is faster. its probley because its a bit lighter (depending on options), or it just feels faster  with the trac lock and better swaybars ect. my lx wasnt bad, but man... when i went into a turn with it, it was like a boat lol.  my sport came with fewer options and the tloc still worked so it got better traction when i stomped on it.
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on September 26, 2006, 09:08:55 AM
Quote from: grutinator;105703
what happened to 1FABP63?

63 wasn't used (at least not for these cars). 83-86 models were 46 though...

Sports, LX's and Base models all had identical power trains (as far as 5.0 versions are concerned). I believe that all Sports had the 3.08 rear as compared to the 2.73 standard rear in base/LX 5.0 cars, but 3.08's were optional in those, so one can't really call a Sport "faster".  They may be (slightly) lighter than an LX but would likely be (slightly) heavier than a base - it all depends on the options the particular car had. A base could be optioned up just as high as an LX, and a Sport could be stripped down to base levels.

Of course, as Nate said, the Sport would be faster through turns because of its better handling.

Really, the only model that could definitively be considered "faster" would be the TC...
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: quicksilver on September 27, 2006, 01:38:59 AM
so is a tc faster then a 5.0 tbird?
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: Beau on September 27, 2006, 03:32:55 AM
No.


























(sarcasm)

yeah, an '87-'88 TC with a T5 is for sure faster than any stock V8 '87-'88 Tbird.
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: 84 Fila on September 27, 2006, 09:15:59 AM
Where would a fila fall into this. Somewhere around a sport because of my 5,0 or the lx because of the non-track lock? Just wonderin...
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: quicksilver on September 27, 2006, 09:01:25 PM
hey, there is a fila at my school. it has a single exhaust. and thats all i know about it. what makes it a fila? did the shoe company just put there name on it. or does it mean something?
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: grutinator on September 27, 2006, 09:22:40 PM
Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;105870


yeah, an '87-'88 TC with a T5 is for sure faster than any stock V8 '87-'88 Tbird.



i have trouble really getting this, i kno thier lighter and turbo'd and ive never really seen one race, but the idea of a 2.3 turbo pushing my car down the track WAY faster is hard for me to believe, i might be able to see a little bit faster, just cus of weight...but then again ive always been a V8 only kinda guy
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on September 27, 2006, 09:30:54 PM
The 87-88 TC had almost 25% more power, a 5-speed (well, the good ones) and better gears (3.55 vs 3.08). Definitely faster than a stock 5.0 Bird or Coug. I dunno about lighter, though - the 5.0 might have a heavier engine but the TC had a heavier rear end, bigger (and thus heavier) brakes & sway bars, more wiring, more electronics, thicker insulation & carpeting, and most had more options. If they are lighter it ain't by much.

Fila: All 83-86 Birds and Cougs shared the body code of 46, be they TC, XR7, Fila, Elan, LS, GS, or whatever. The 5.0 was available in everything except the TC and XR7, so that wouldn't make it a Sport. The traction-lock rear end was actually optional in all of 'em too (and this includes 87-88 models as well) though few had the option. Since the Fila was generally heavily optioned and had an uplevel interior I'd compare it more to the LX (in fact I think the LX model actually replaced the Fila in '87).
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: grutinator on September 27, 2006, 09:50:18 PM
i didnt really factor in that other stuff, i just figured 2.3 vs 5.0 and aod vs t-5, the tc would be lighter...i also didnt kno it had 25% more power, i assume because its a 4 cilynder and turboed, it makes most of its power very high in the revs, vs the 5.0's low end torque, so bein the same weight, u 2.3 guys probably do alot of downshiftin on hills, idk, if i had to own a 4 banger, i would definatly pick a tc/84-86xr7, i think thats bull too, tc's got 25% more power, the xr-7;'s coulda got the HO, im kinda just ranting on now:(
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: 88sportcoupe on September 28, 2006, 07:34:24 AM
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Sports, LX's and Base models all had identical power trains (as far as 5.0 versions are concerned). I believe that all Sports had the 3.08 rear as compared to the 2.73 standard rear in base/LX 5.0 cars, but 3.08's were optional in those, so one can't really call a Sport "faster".


I know my Sport has 2.73 gears dont know about anyone elses but thats what i got in mine according to the door tag
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: 84 Fila on September 28, 2006, 08:15:12 AM
I have 3.08's in mine according to my tag.
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: EricCoolCats on September 28, 2006, 09:15:41 AM
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All 83-86 Birds and Cougs shared the body code of 46

1983-86 Cougars had the body code 92... ;)
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: BIGmeat15071 on September 28, 2006, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: 88sportcoupe;105982
I know my Sport has 2.73 gears dont know about anyone elses but thats what i got in mine according to the door tag
Same here. I wish I had the 3.08s.
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: Pressure cooked chicken on September 28, 2006, 04:01:54 PM
turbos will bring the torque peak down in a hurry. I don't shift excessively with my TC. Unless you just up shifted, or are trolling around at low speed in a higher gear, all you do is gas it and watch the boost gauge come up and get pushed into the seat:grinno:
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: quicksilver on September 28, 2006, 08:48:13 PM
i only get pushed back in my sit from off the line. after that..... well, theres not much there... yet. but i just $700 worth of parts i'll be putting when i can find the time
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: thunderjet302 on September 28, 2006, 10:41:50 PM
2.73 gears to a 3.08 gear is not much of a difference. Something like 3.55 or 3.73 gears and a Traction Lok will make a noticeable difference in performance. The big mechanical differences between a Sport and a LX (I have a LX) are that the LX has mushier springs, shocks, smaller roll bars front and back, and no quad shocks. Most LXs don't have Traction Loks but most Sports do. Appearance wise a Sport has blacked out trim and door handles and a center consle and floor shifter standard, buttstuffog dash, and standard door panels. The LX has chrome trim and door handles, conslette and column shifter, digital dash, and Turbo Coupe style door panels.
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: quicksilver on September 28, 2006, 11:06:13 PM
i just bought 3.73 gears with a traction lock, and everything i need to do the HO conversion with explore cobra intake manifold and GT-40P heads. (i just need to find headers for it)
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: Haystack on October 01, 2006, 01:34:57 PM
why was traction lock such a big deal if most of the v-6's and v-8's that had them optional, couldn't even bark a tire?

And my 86's had 2.73 and 3.08 and I cant tell the diffrence at all. My 87 had a 3.27(?) and you could tell alittle bit.
Title: LX VS sport?
Post by: MasterBlaster on October 02, 2006, 08:38:41 AM
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why was traction lock such a big deal if most of the v-6's and v-8's that had them optional, couldn't even bark a tire?
Trying to start up a steep hill in the rain.
One tire on clean pavement, the other on a patch of ice.
It's not just for drag racing.