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Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: rw289 on September 05, 2006, 10:39:54 PM
Ok I am interested in gaining torque instead of horsepower so much.  Any ideas that will give me more torque than horsepower?  Or does most of the parts go hand in hand with giving equal amounts of each?  And if you have a HO upper intake let me know.
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: bhazard on September 05, 2006, 11:00:34 PM
gears?
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: sum_weirdo on September 05, 2006, 11:43:05 PM
You can have the engine favor either horsepower or torque by degreeing the camshaft one way or the other in relation to the crankshaft.  Alot of aftermarket timing sets come set up for this with pre cut notches but you can do it with a stock set too.  Just don't go nuts, only a few degrees.  Speaking of camshafts you can buy one to favor torque, an RV cam for example, and probably any number of aftermarket truck cams.
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: Nate on September 05, 2006, 11:53:13 PM
go buy a set of long tube headers, and full exhaust. that will give u some desent torque.
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: sum_weirdo on September 06, 2006, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: Nate
go buy a set of long tube headers, and full exhaust. that will give u some desent torque.


Long as you don't make the pipe diameter too big.
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: Cougar5.0 on September 06, 2006, 01:13:02 AM
Torque?

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Kenne Bell

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Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: sum_weirdo on September 06, 2006, 01:27:07 AM
:iagree:
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on September 06, 2006, 10:11:31 AM
Generally any mod that adds horsepower will add torque, but it usually will add that torque at a higher RPM. With that in mind you can do such things as a HO upgrade, which will boost your tq from 265 to 300 and your hp from 155 to 225. This bump in torque will also raise the peak torque RPM from 2200 to 3200 RPM. Unfortunately alomst anything you do to increase torque will also drive the powerband higher into the RPM range. The key is to increasde torque at higher RPM's while not losing it at lower RPM's. In other words, you might drive the peak number higher but you don't want a lower figure than stock at 2200 RPM. If you can have your engine producing 300 tq at 3200, you still want at least 265 available at 2200, or it'll feel like you've lost some low end grunt.

Unfortunately there is not a whole lot of available options that'll keep a strong "bottom end". For this reason you can install gears and a higher stall converter to get your engine up into the "peak" territory quicker. This offsets a loss of torque at the bottom end.
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: quicksilver on September 06, 2006, 10:25:02 PM
cougar 5.0, that is the weirdest supercharger i have ever seen!
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: Cougar5.0 on September 06, 2006, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: quicksilver
cougar 5.0, that is the weirdest supercharger i have ever seen!


Best supercharger for a mostly street driven car.
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: V8Demon on September 07, 2006, 11:33:46 AM
Quote from: Cougar 5.0
Best supercharger for a mostly street driven car.


I agree.  Halfway to my fund allotment for the KB for the Stang!

RW289,  what RPM range are you looknig to make torque in?  You looknig to give a slight increase overall or a large increase over a smaller RPM range?
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: nirvanagod on September 07, 2006, 12:42:48 PM
Quote from: Paul Flockhart
I agree.  Halfway to my fund allotment for the KB for the Stang!


Just out of curiosity, why not the Roush one?
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: V8Demon on September 07, 2006, 02:28:58 PM
$4500 as opposed to $6500
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: rw289 on September 07, 2006, 04:49:01 PM
Oh I guess I am looking for more in the lower RPM range.  I want to get up and going faster than I am right now.  Sure it saves gas mileage but I still want some strength.
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: Kitz Kat on September 07, 2006, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: bhazard
gears?


Like he says
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: nirvanagod on September 07, 2006, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Paul Flockhart
$4500 as opposed to $6500


Touche, I just looked it up also... you going 8psi intercooled or 5psi non?
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: rw289 on September 08, 2006, 09:01:26 AM
I was thinking about getting some gears.  What do you guys recommend, I don't want to go too crazy.
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: V8Demon on September 08, 2006, 09:35:33 AM
I'm going non.  The non intercooled kit comes with bigger injectors, a computer recalibrator, a cold air intake, and a bigger MAF.  The base intercooled kit doesn't.  The upgrade intercooled kit has all the components and runs $5600.

The Roush is $6500....no injectors or MAF

This threads getting off course, my apologies.........

I assume your car has the 7.5 rear.  3.55's are not an option.  The sizes go 3.27, 3.45, 3.73, and 4.10. 
Ford Rangers came with any one of these sizes.
There is some good info here: http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Axles.html
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: thunderjet302 on September 08, 2006, 03:30:08 PM
Quote from: Cougar5.0
Best supercharger for a mostly street driven car.


Oh yeah if I could afford to get one for my 5.0 I would. Some day I will have one:D
Title: So forget the horsepower how about some Torque?
Post by: Kitz Kat on September 08, 2006, 04:46:01 PM
With a aod 3.73 will be noticable,I'm runnin 3.45 trac loc now,till I get a chance to put an 8.8 in,When I find one close by.
hint hint anyone.