did you have to upgrade your tranny or or beef up anything when you put your twist wedge heads on?
im saving up to buy a pair of twist wedge heads and i need to know everything i need to do so i want break anything
thank you.
Your trans should handle it np if your just doing the usual H/C/I swap in your car,stock aod should handle around 300hp.
Running H/C/I and a supercharger through my mostly stock aod,have a 2200 stall and a valvebody.
Trans hasn't blown up yet and i figure i've got around 425hp at least.
The only thing my aod does is under full throttle pulls it misses second gear and goes right to third,if i manually grab second it will hold it.
New trans is going in next year,ebay seller sells one that has the wide ratio gearset and will handle 650hp for 1100 shipped,can't beat that.
so do you think my tranny will be ok with
edelbrock performer intake manifold
twist wedge heads
HO cam
headers
roller rockers
underdrive pullies
and a 75mm tb
HAHAHHA my stock AOD couldn't handle the HO swap, and the second AOD couldn't handle it either..
yeah lol, them aod's cant handle the 150hp of the SO most of the time. expecialy if they got 150k on the clock. i'd get a shift kit and front mount cooler to help keep wear down, pluss, it will be a little more fun.
Well i donno guys,not saying mine shifts the way it should but it's takin 425 right now with a vb and convertor.
Mine is a mustang aod, but other than the linkage there isn't any difference.
what year mustang? newer vb design? i think i rember reading that the mustang aod had a few more clutches in it also and something about a stronger od band. i wish i could rember more tho, it may have just been talk. but me personaly i have killed 4, and my friends have killed more, built to, vb's, shift kits, converters, usualy changing the imput shaft works tho, the stock ones tend to brake under alot of power. tho, it probley dosnt help that most of them have over 100k on em.
You know what the problem is, I killed mine with the 1-2-1 shuffle and I'm sure thats what Nate :flame: did to his too.. Notice we both have 5 speed trannys now. If you going to go with AOD I think the trick is not to shift the out it :giggle: :giggle:
well, im pretty much screwed then with my tranny. it has 164k on it...:hick:
so i take it i can just go to a pickandpull yard and take a AOD tranny from a stang?
I pull the 1-D-1 shuffle quite frequently...and I've been doing it for nearly 3 years now...still going strong...I regularly beat the balls off my car and I yet to have a problem with the trans(except for a cooler line leak). All I have done to it is a B&M shift kit set to "street/strip" and a fairly large transcooler.
Seems like they either hold up fairly well, or grenade almost immediately...no middle ground...lol.
good ole 1-2-1 shuffle mine tranny loves it but not my old one!
My tranny has three mods, but otherwise has never been apart. Bought it from a '90 SC that suffered a bad dash fire(ign sw)with approx 45K mi, still had the factory cherry bomb(dip tube plug) rolling around in the pan.
My mods are a Trans-Go shift kit, hardened input shaft(orig broke first time at track) and an additional mod to the valve body(drill, cut, epoxy a couple of passages) that prevents it from shifting past 2nd in the "D" position. That elimnates the D-1-D shuffle that is pr0ne to causing clutch wear...
Before I installed the shift kit, it shifted fair on it's own, but struggled badly with the 2-3 manual shifting at 6000(and you need 6000 rpms with the Trick Flows). The Trans Go made a new transmission out of my AOD...
Now that it has approx 85K miles its getting a bit soft, but still shifts far better than without the kit. Also remember It has some where in the neighborhood of 600+ drag strip passes. Also I sprayed the piss out of it with a 85hp shot of the juice and hit it a few times with a buck and a half shot(the Nitto DRs didn't like that much fun)....
what kinds of times are you running turbocoupe50?
On the motor its gone 13.11@105 with a 8.42 1/8 and has run a couple of high 8.30s down at the little track in NC.
On the 85 shot it went 12.23@112, never had enough tire to make a good run with the 150 shot, estimate a 11.75@116 or so...
dang, those are really impressive times!
what mods do you have to the engine?
Lets just say the only stock part is the '86 LSC short block...
List of mods here....
http://natomessageboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=000028
If you look at the 4cyl times, you'll see I have the quickest time on NATOs board :D (yea by a gnats ass). Guess if the 1/2 motor guys catch me, I'll have to dig out the blue bottle and up the ante a little...:rollin:
BTW I see the nitrous shot is listed as 90hp on NATOs board, I really don't know what it was. It was jetted for 75hp on a stock HO. From the times I ran, it was definatly giving more on a free breathing engine... Thinking back now the 150 shot was probably actually closer to 180hp... No wonder the Nittos were unhappy...
wow, how much did all those mods cost?!?! you have one impressive car!!
In the 9+ years I've owned the car I've spent roughly $9000 on it(that includes the original purchase price of $1215). It could be done a good bit cheaper buying used parts, but when I did the swap back in '99, the good Hi-Po stuff was hard to find second hand. I got to be on a first name basis with the sales guys at Summit and Jegs...:rollin: (Also the UPS guy)
haha they knew you by name:rollin: thats pretty cool
so i take it the pistons you have right now are bowled. can twisted wedge heads work on flat tops?
i belive it's the 90-93 aod's maybe 89 was the new Vb change. it has the B overdrive servo nothing special. but better than the C that birds and cougars got. im not sure about the extra clutch. if you want to stay auto and keep OD. forget the aod. it'sa to much of a gamble skip the aode beter than the aod but still pr0ne to failure. grab a tranny out of a 99+ V6 mustang (forgot the name) and get the controller for it i'll look for the link after i post. thats the best bet
http://www.baumannengineering.com/aodcat.htm (http://"http://www.baumannengineering.com/aodcat.htm")
Pistons are flattop... No bowl, dimples or valve relifs...(had a pix, but it's on another computer).
SC AODs use the "A" servo... Ain't really important though, it's just for O/D... I don't race in O/D...
oo ok, because i noticed that you have a trick flow cam in your car. so can i have a trickflow cam in my engine if i get twisted wedge heads too?
TC50, can you list every part number from the summit catalog so i can have an exact replica of your car please? I cant think for myself.